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Old 09-23-2004, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Rape

I don't know how many of you are framilar with the movie "boondock saints" but this situation makes me feel like going vigilante style....thats just not right....

A New Breed Of Rapists

A woman at a nightclub on Saturday night was taken by 5 men, who according to hospital and police reports, gang raped her before dumping her. Unable to remember the events of the evening, tests later confirmed the repeat rapes along with traces of Rohypnol in her blood and Progesterex, essentially a small sterilization pill. The drug is now being used by rapists at parties to rape AND sterilize their victims. Progesterex is available to vets to sterilize large animals. Progesterex is being used together with Rohypnol, the date rape drug. As with Rohypnol, all they have to do is drop it into the girl's drink. The girl can't remember a thing the next morning, of all that had taken place the night before. Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks just as easily, is such that the victim doesn't get pregnant!; she won't conceive from the rape and the rapist needn't worry about having a paternity test identifying him months later. The drug's effects ARE NOT TEMPORARY - They are P*E*R*M*A*N*E*N*T Progesterex was designed to sterilize horses.. Any female who takes it will NEVER BE ABLE TO CONCEIVE.. The weasels can get this drug from anyone who is in the vet school or any university. !

It's that easy, and Progesterex is about to break out big on campuses everywhere. Believe it or not, there are even sites on the Internet telling people how to use it. Please forward this to everyone you know, especially girls.. Be careful when you're out and don't leave your drink unattended. Please make the effort to forward this on to all you know...Guys, please inform all your female friends and relatives.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the penalties for rape of this sort need to be greater such as life without paroll
or castration
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry, but screw life in prison! When someone is in prison for life, they are getting off easy! We pay for them to be there, they live, and die a "normal" life. I TOTALLY believe in the death penalty. I say we revert to the time of Hamurabi and use his code of laws, if you have never read those, you should! Many make sense in today's world still, albeit, some would not apply. But, INSTILL Fear, and crime goes down. How many people are "truely" afraid of our legal system? There is almost always a loop hole and way out.


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Old 09-27-2004, 02:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1597.html

Seems there is no such thing as "Progesterex"....At least, according to the link above. Its an urban legend.. Now, Rohypnol, "Roofies" and GHB.. Those do exist....

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Claim: A drug called Progesterex is being used by date rapers to sterilize victims, thus preventing the rapists' identification through paternity.
Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 1999]


There is a new drug that has been out for less than a year, Progesterex, that is a essentially a small sterilization pill. The drug is now being used by rapists at parties to rape AND sterilize their victims. My best friend's mom works at a pharmacy and she said the drug is available exclusivly to veterinarians to sterilize large animals. But I have heard from several of my friends that are still in grad school up north that at frat parties at their schools (Columbia and Penn State) the drug is being used with Rohypnol (roofies), the date rape drug. With Rohypnol, all they have to do is drop it into their drink. The girl can't remember a thing the next morning of what happened the night before. Well now Rohypnol is not being used alone. Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks (alcohol or soda) just as easily, is being used with it so that the woman doesn't conceive from the rape and the rapist doesn't have to worry about having a paternity test identifying him months later. But the drug's affects AREN'T TEMPORARY. Progesterex was designed to sterilize horses. Any woman that takes it WILL NOT HAVE CHILDREN EVER IN HER LIFE. All guys have to do to get this drug is just know someone, like a friend, who is in the Vet school of any university. It's that easy, and Progesterex is about to break out big on campuses everywhere. Believe it or not, there is even a site on the internet for the drug telling people how to use it. It's at http://members.theglobe.com/sinister101/index.htm. For more information about "Roofies" go to http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0884.html. Please! Forward this to everyone you know, especially girls who might be headed to college or live in college towns.



Origins: This one is pure hoax: No drug called Progesterex exists, no pill for permanently sterilizing horses or other large animals is used by veterinarians or sold on the market, no campuses have reported any students becoming the victims of sterilization-by-drug, and the URL cited offers no information "telling people how to use" Progesterex.

In 2002, this cautionary tale was dusted off and set loose again, this time in the form of a story:


[Collected on the Internet, 2002]

A woman at Gass nightclub on Saturday night was taken by 5 men, who according to hospital and police reports gang raped her before dumping her naked at Neutral Bay.

Unable to remember the events of the evening, tests later confirmed the repeat rapes along with traces of rohypnol in her blood.

Boyfriends and girlfriends, take heed. Good guys out there, please forward this message to your lady friends.

Progesterex, that is a essentially a small sterilisiation pill. The drug is now being used by rapists at parties to rape AND sterilize their victims.

Progesterex is available to vets to sterilize large animals. Rumour has it that the Progesterex is being used together with Rohypnol, the date rape drug.

As with Rohypnol, all they have to do is drop it into the girl's drink. The girl can't remember a thing the next morning, of all that had taken place the night before Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks just as easily, is such that the victim doesn't conceive from the rape and the rapist needn't worry about having a paternity test identifying him months later.

The drug's effects ARE NOT TEMPORARY - They are P*E*R*M*A*N*E*N*T Progesterex was designed to sterilize horses. Any female that takes it WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONCEIVE. The dickheads can get this drug from anyone who is in the vet school of any university. It's that easy, and Progesterex is about to break out big on campuses everywhere. Believe it or not, there is even a site on the internet telling people how to use it. Please forward this to everyone you know, especially girls. Be careful when you're out and don't leave your drink unattended.
In 2003 a slightly altered version appeared that changed the purported locale of the incident. We quote only its first paragraph:


[Collected on the Internet, 2003]

A woman at Gas nightclub (Mumbai) on Saturday night was taken by 5 men, who according to hospital and police reports, gang raped her before dumping her at BandStand Mumbai.
The use of the sedative Rohypnol (or "roofies") by sexual predators looking to make their victims more compliant (and less likely to remember their encounters) has been discussed at great length over the last few years. The addition of the fictitious drug "Progesterex" to a standard piece of roofie scarelore is just someone's poor idea of a joke.

This particular scare seems to rely upon the notion that the process of identifying a rapist doesn't begin until his victim is delivered of a child. Even if a woman can't identify her attacker, bodily fluids and scrapings collected immediately after the rape help finger the man responsible. Were a rapist intent upon concealing his identity, a condom would serve him far better than any mythical sterilization drug.

Additional information: "Progesterex": Horse and Human Sterilizer?
(Go Ask Alice)


Last updated: 22 October 2003

The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/toxins/progest.htm


It seems Eric has been duped..
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I hate the crime toy mentioning, but the funny thing is that I see such a big diffrence between punichments in Sweden/Europe compared to the US.
I think we should increase the penalties over here to your standards...You guys might say that lifr in jail is waaaay to short or getting of easy...Here a rapist will probably get between 5-10 years, and if behave, he will be out after 2/3 of the time

So you shouldn't complain about your penalty system over there...Because it's a joke over here, and it makes me
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Old 09-27-2004, 04:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks Trahn. Poor Eric...

Edit: Just realized I was thinking out loud again...

As for penalties, how is spending your life in jail? I'd perfer to die... Who wants to live surrounded by razor wire and and live in a cell for the rest of you life? I mean if your 20 and get a life sentence, than your life was wasted. Don't get the idea I'm against the death penalty, I'm not. (Not for it either, don't have an opinion) As Drayu said, it saves money and keeps the jail population down. On the negitive side, if someone was wrongly convicted they lost their life for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. (same could happen with a life sentence)
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Old 09-27-2004, 05:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On the negitive side, if someone was wrongly convicted they lost their life for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. (same could happen with a life sentence)
YEah, that is what I am talking about, that would put fear into people, and keep down the crime.
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Old 09-27-2004, 05:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well acording to many resarcheres (atleast this was what they told us in the accademy) long penaltys, don't nesesary means that people get more sceard of comiting crime. It is only us "normal" people that think, the longer penalty the better, but for a criminal, they don't give a shit when they commit their crimes if they can be put away for 10-20 years OR life with out porrol. All they have in their head is the crime, not the consecvenses of it.

Sorry for all the misspelling, but I'm pretty sure you guys can read it and understand it :o
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Quote:
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Well acording to many resarcheres (atleast this was what they told us in the accademy) long penaltys, don't nesesary means that people get more sceard of comiting crime. It is only us "normal" people that think, the longer penalty the better, but for a criminal, they don't give a shit when they commit their crimes if they can be put away for 10-20 years OR life with out porrol. All they have in their head is the crime, not the consecvenses of it.

Sorry for all the misspelling, but I'm pretty sure you guys can read it and understand it :o
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