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Old 11-16-2004, 05:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Falluja Video

http://members.cox.net/macallan_the/falluja.asf

Some video of the fighting.........

Be safe guys.
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow!
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's very interesting. Do you know if their Marines or Army? (Not that it matter, just curious)
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I get botherd by this.

The soldiers seems to belive it's some kind of a game, I don't even know if they understand that the target is to kill another human beeing. Sure they are terrorists. But is everybody in the city a terrorist?.
I know I will get a whole bunch of you people against me but this is how I feel. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those few Europeans that support this war. I feel that whats need to be done has to be done.
But I still think the way these American soldiers reacted is a disrespect towards the man kind.

They might laugh when they kill Americans, but are "we" civilaised, people supose to do the same thing? Shouldn't these guys be behave as civilaised people?

As I said...i will probebly get flamed with this post...But this is the way I feel about is....Sorry for that in that case
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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adrenaline does wonders Swede.

you can bet your ass that the enemy is celebrating when they kill one of ours.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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not actually seeing the persons face, and only shooting at their shape also helps that.

(that's why sharpshooters have to do psyc evals just about every 3 days)
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The enemy is never a human being. They are always sub-human. That's how you have to rationalize it. That's why in every war, each side gives the other side derogatory names. As a soldier, I don't think they're train to think, "omg, I'm shooting at another human being that is possibly a father, son, or daughter to someone."

Besides, they're shooting at empty houses anyways.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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well swede i dont support this war. but yer right murder is not a joke, but in the face of fear i suppose laughter is a welcome friend.
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Well aren't they trained to behave anyway. I mean I can't compare to my military days, but we went a fairly long education about what adrenaline do to your body and how you can prevent the adrenaline to take over your body, sort to speak. I have a lot of friends that saw action down in Bosnia and Kosovo, not ONE said to me that they laughed and cheerd when they were in combat.

I have no explanation to this behavior, since I have a hard time to belivie that American soldiers doesn't go trow the same kind of education as we do over here. i also don't think that these boys are stupid either.

I just wish I understood what it was that made these guys to behave/react like this?
I don't buy the "adrenaline-kick" since people I know who has been in the sitauation haven't laughed at it. Sure they had adrenaline kicks but in their opinion it only resulted that they were more focused on the task.

I hope someone can explain to me?

Once again, I'm one of those few Euros that chully support this war, and nothing has changed with this clip. This could of been soldiers from any country. But it did surprise me that these achully were US troops.
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american training is diffrent then the rest of the nations of the world, they view adrenilin diffrently then lets say the germans or the british.

and the training is diffrent, if you notice how many rounds the m249 gunner fires he is trained to spray large areas without conserving ammo or aquiring a target (not to mention he screwed his barrell by overheating it) and the other gunner stood there while loading (another training fault)

each country trains diffrently, some train their soldiers to shot only when fired upon, some train them to shoot first.
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