Well I finally blew the dust off of the wallet and got a beginners camcorder. It is a sony and after the reviews i have read from its release date it appears it contends with a lot of higher priced minidv cams. Its only a digital8? I have no clue about this stuff, but its got a lot of buttons and makes cool menu noises so i am sure i will be having fun playing with it.
By any chance does anyone have one of these thing? and maybe some links for beginners on how to film porns? Just kidding!

anyway if someone can steer me in the right direction
I looked around online and the cheapest they had it was at walmart, but they were sold out, so i spent 10.00 or so more dollars at best buy.
I only wanted to spend 250.00 but i wanted to have 2 major things.
1) image stabilization
2) USB 2.0 compliance.
I looked just about everywhere and if you included shipping with the purchase it would have been more than retail.(i am sure there was some place that could have had it cheaper, but i could not find it, except refurbs)
I was so mad that I had to spend more than i wanted to because Best Buy had an online price of 249.00 for a JVC model that had Firewire, but when i called to see if they had it in stock becaus the online price was out of stock, the would not match the online price from their own website. So i ended up going to about 6 different places and everywhere i went (for the exception of walmart) the service i was getting sucked.
I do not expect to have my but kissed, but when i ask a straight forward question like (Could you please point me to all of the camcorders that are USB 2.0 compliant?) and there are about 50 different cams with little info tags, and i get a response like, "They all are usb 2.0 compliant" i am gonna walk out.
Thats just what i did at circuit city. Before i walked out i made him prove to me that they were. He was looking at me like i was stupid. But after i forced him to show me that he was wrong and watched him get embarrased, i said, i will spend my money elsewhere and walked out.
I know i was an ass to him, but i could have spent money on the wrong thing and had to have returned it etc...
Either way, I am pretty sure that i got the right device for the money i spent, but was hoping that someone else has some knowledge or advice regarding the thing.
Here is the link:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...rders#features