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Old 05-07-2008, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just For You Ash!

I thought this would amuse you. I bet, no. I KNOW you wont be able to sit through all of it though.

FYI, it's about one of our presidential candidates.

Eyeblast.tv - A Video Portrait Of Barack Hussein Obama
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I hope Obama wins
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I hope Obama wins
im glad your not in the usa. obama is all drama for your moma. macain all the way.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sure that video looks like it is a Propaganda tool of the right... but man all those videos and evidence...

That has to hurt.

Why in the world would we elect for the PRESIDENT of our country a person that refuses to wear an American Flag, Sing the National Anthem or ever put his hand over his heart during it!!!

The dude is ANTI-AMERICAN!!!

There is only one reason a guy that hates America as much as Bin Laden would want to be President is to destroy it.

Thanks for the find Brift. Well worth watching till the end.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Why in the world would we elect for the PRESIDENT of our country a person that refuses to wear an American Flag, Sing the National Anthem or ever put his hand over his heart during it!!!
Lol. Lets dispell something. If you've been on there internet for a while, you've probably heard of the respectable urban legend site Snopes. This site has a thorough discussion on this hand on the heart/won't sing the anthem stuff. While there are some other concerns about the guy (like there are about McCain and the 'needs ass sex Hillary'), these things are non issue to me and everyone really should look at them in context.

With an open mind, do it the justice of reading all of the article and clicking all of the links, just like you did with the propaganda video.

snopes.com: Barack Obama and the National Anthem
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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heres some more 'Nobama' fuel to slam the ignorant with...

[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]
Quotes from Barack Obama’s book “Dreams of My Father” –
I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”
I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”
The emotion between the races could never be pure… the other race (white) would always remain just that: menacing, alien and apart.”

Quote from Barack Obama’s book “The Audacity of Hope” –
I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Project Islamic Hope - http://islamichope.org

"I opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. It should be repealed and I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor. I will also oppose any proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban gays and lesbians from marrying." (Windy City Times - 2004)

Obama’s connection with the Weather Underground terrorist group -
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/15/obamas-terrorist-ties/

The Tony Rezko connection: http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1960154/replies?c=98

Senator Obama's Controversial church -
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ38N8OUg3Q

Frank Marshall Davis - Obama’s communist mentor -
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

Obama’s big government economic plan will kill the middle class
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MGYxYWM4NjkxMjUwMzBhZDAwNTg2NjZmYmU5MWU2ZmQ

Obama's support of infanticide --
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59702

Obama's plan to disarm America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

Commentary on Obama from Ken Blackwell (who is Ken Blackwell? http://www.kenblackwell.com/)

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KenBlackwell/2008/03/04/run,_hillary,_run!?page=full&comments=true

Washington Post commentary on the "race" speech from Obama (thinking he can clear the air on his pastor)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/20/AR2008032003017.html

OBAMA SUPPORTS:
Homosexual Unions
Gun Control
Socialized Medicine (Universal Healthcare)
Abortion (including partial-birth abortion)
North American Union
Estate Tax Reinstatement

OBAMA OPPOSES:
Iraq War
Reauthorization of the Patriot Act
Privatizing Social Security
Death Penalty
Three Strikes Laws
School Vouchers
Bush Tax Cuts
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i dont bother with this bulllshit on obama... im not a democrat... and its mostly clinton who is spending money to defame him... but its all crap the man is a US senator and a politician of course he says the pledge and sings the anthem there is no politician even if he hated everything america stood for that would refuse to sing the anthem etc... and these
OBAMA SUPPORTS:
Homosexual Unions
Gun Control
Socialized Medicine (Universal Healthcare)
Abortion (including partial-birth abortion)
North American Union
Estate Tax Reinstatement

OBAMA OPPOSES:
Iraq War
Reauthorization of the Patriot Act
Privatizing Social Security
Death Penalty
Three Strikes Laws
School Vouchers
Bush Tax Cuts

i agree with fully... especially the north american union. and as for his pastor who gives a damn about him?? and the funny thing is if you were to hear the mans full speach i agree with him on most of his views.... and in that video it mentions his idea for diplomacy with these "terrorist leaders" which last time i checked were all legitimate leaders of countries but god forbid we made peace with these people... and fyi i support the muslims as well i have muslim friends and the hate and fear propaghanda the US has created against them is plain wrong...
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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im sry if i didnt read that right. but you support muslims... then my friend you better watch out your friend dosent give a jihid on you. cuz in the karon its says to pass the word by the sword and kill who all dont bow befor allah. so if your friend is a TRUE muslim then he wants to kill you and all that you stand for weather you belive in god or not.i hoped ppl would read more about world news then just going by what they think of the goverment cuz they been killing ppl for a long time and its not gonna stop.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EU70GqQCCRg&feature=related <== tells the truth and if you dont watch i dont wanna hear a responce.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7fgymx0wy69 video of boys and men being forced into islam

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_re_af/begging_for_islam

i not saying your friend is a bad person most of the time the muslims in america wer raised to only know what there need to be know to be excepted but if we were over there we would see a whole diffrent way the act.

my Best friend just left for the marines. he belives in god and love his country. now his dad which 0-5 commander in the navy and wrote this to him befor he left. i wanted to shair it with you all even if your not christin its still good info check it out

Chris,
This is a long response, but I love you very much and want you to understand
some things before you go charging off with strong emotions of anger. I
understand your anger and concern. It is righteous indignation. But
exercise self-discipline and use your mind to address an issue first. Let
your emotions follow your knowledge, not vice-versa.

Extremists of any cause are dangerous, whether extreme liberals, extreme
conservatives, or extreme Muslims simply because they are willing to justify
any extreme means to accomplish an end. The liberals of our day have
created a moral vacuum which has, in part, created this opportunity for
Islam. Europe secularized a long time ago, dismissing christianity from
their lives. When Islam was conquering by the sword in the 8th century A.D.
to convince people to live by the Koran, Europe was going through its "Dark
Ages", a period of ignorance and corrupt Catholic pervasiveness. Muhammad
borrowed many ideas from christianity...unfortunately he convinced himself
he was the final prophet...and had his own revelations (shurahs). So for
the last 1,700 years, Arabs have lived with the Koran at the center of their
lives and Europeans have progressively pushed the Bible out of theirs.

When a social-moral vacuum like that is created, something has to fill it,
so secular humanism fills it; the belief that man is his own measure of what
is right and wrong...and the objective standard of morality external to man,
i.e. GOD, is relegated to a 'servant' of mankind, and mankind follows its
own nose for right and wrong, defining it to suit their own tastes. This
opens the door for extremism as any means is justified to achieve an end.
Extreme Catholics and extreme Protestants killed by the hundreds of
thousands in the 1500-1600s; Germany lost one-third of its population in the
30 Years War as Catholics and Protestants killed each other. That was
hardly Christianity, but most people know so little about the christianity
of the Bible that it is difficult to communicate to them what christianity
is supposed to look like...as God said, "My people are destroyed for LACK of
knowledge." If people choose not to know God's word, then it's hard to live
accordingly.

When the Netherlands or any country approves of and accepts immorality as
"normal" or "right", then it opens the door to Islam or some other extreme
ideology, as did the Germans in post-WWI Europe. Berlin was the home to the
world's homosexuals prior to the rise of fascism. Most people aren't aware
that the Nazis had the homosexuals wear pink stars of David to identify
themselves. Mass extermination is not the christian way to address the
immoral, but it is a method used by non-christian extremists. When the
Northern Kingdom of Israel apostatized and chose immorality and idol worship
as their way to live (worship on the "high places"), God allowed the
Assyrians in 732 B.C. to come and slaughter them...taking the women and
children captive and slaughtering the men. It was evil against evil since
none of them were serving God. When the Southern Kingdom failed to return
to God after witnessing that, God allowed the Babylonians to capture them in
586 B.C. Again, evil against evil. And if the West chooses to live as if
there is no God, then we should probably expect evil to do evil against
those who live evil lives; evil being that which is contrary to God's will.
Unfortunately, many good and innocent people are caught up in that. Truth
and innocence are usually the first victims of war. When a people turn from
God and seek their own morality, some worse evil fills that vacuum. It
seems to be a natural consequent to human actions of denying God.

This may be America's and the West's wake up call. I hope, and believe,
that the West will wake up and realize that the Biblical values and moral
standards of long ago are what made America and christian Europe great, and
the more we depart from moral standards the more we enslave ourselves to
immorality and all that it brings. Look at what Hollywood is producing and
how many of those Hollywood types live their lives. That is how most of the
world sees America, through the lens of Hollywood, and the drugs and
immorality that go with it. I cannot fault Muslims 100% if they view the
West as decadent. To a large degree, they are correct. On the other hand,
Islam is one of the most evil ideologies I've ever studied. It's "holiness"
and 'devoutness' is a façade, a false front. People are people everywhere.
Some just hide their decadence better than others. America is very open
with its immorality. Islam hides it very well.

When people acknowledge Christ in their lives, then they try to act like
Christ by seeking to walk morally, to do right, to seek truth, to love
others, to remain faithful in marriage, to remain married, to teach children
of Christ, and to teach others who are interested...and from that comes a
society that recognizes law and authority and self-discipline, exercising
personal responsibility...morality is an individual responsibility, and
society will only be as moral as the individuals comprising it.

There are several possibilities in the future;
1. the West may wake up and experience a moral re-awakening, a return to
christian principles. Taking a stand on absolute principles of right and
wrong give a society courage and willingness to fight, as we saw in WWII.
That is why you are so willing to fight and resist this movement, because
you have taken a stand on absolute right, you therefore have moral
conviction and courage.

2. The West may continue its moral decay, inevitably allowing some other
form of evil to dominate. Whether it was Assyrians or Babylonians,
eventually another form conquered it through greater force of harshness.
The Mongols of the 12th-13th century are an excellent example of extremists
annihilating a corrupt "christian" Russia and Eastern Europe.

3. In the long run, centuries away, the conflict between Islam and the
'christian' West may lead to a change in Islam and its weakening as Muslims
come to greater knowledge of the world and other alternatives. It may
secularize itself as it morphs into something different, or something less
important to its followers. It feeds on ignorance, so the more educated
people become, the less militant and extreme they are.

4. The western civilization we know may be destroyed, and eventually Islam
itself disintegrates, and mankind begins to rebuild; or Eastern Civilization
(China/India) become the centers of gravity for advancement of civilization.


The threat is always from within; we see the external threats pretty
clearly, like airplanes flying into our buildings. We seem less alert to
the demographic changes occurring. As Muslims make up a greater part of our
constituency in America and begin voting, we will see a change in our
Congress over time. The tolerance of democracy shown to Muslims will not be
reciprocated; by then Americans may not be capable of distinguishing right
from wrong, have forfeited all moral standards by which to judge anything.

When all is said and done, what matters most is that YOU be the faithful
follower of Christ by knowing His Word and following it...so that no matter
what happens, you live forever with Him even though you lose your earthly
life...which will happen regardless of what one does...we all must
die...just make sure you have been a faithful servant.

I love you very much and you are in my prayers each day!
Dad


dont think i dont know your not dumb but this is real stuff that is going on outside our lil world called north america. we need to wake up. islam is already takin over europe and will steam roll us if were not careful. and if you didnt watch the vids dont say shit i dont wanna hear mindless babel i wanna hear facts and stuff
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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wow gen, your spelling was pretty bad, i mean i don't mind typos bud damn

and that sure was a whole lot of subjective cow shit in that letter...i'll agree with the writer that the more educated one becomes the easier it is to see that religious texts are not to be taken so literally, other wise i think the jewish would be a little more adamant about demanding that germans start mass murdering themselves or that egyptians should work tirelessly to build them some great monument. (although a lot of the pyramids were built off from actual egyptians because most egyptians farmed off from the Nile only when it was good for it, so what else did they have to do...LETS BUILD YEAH!)

and damn I love how the writer propagates that Islam is some Evil Vampire that is quickly turning "good ol' christian types" into muslims as it builds a mega army of super-muslims to attack THE GOOD OL' US of A with!!!


what made this country great was pride, we were the golden standard for so long and we took pride in that. Didn't matter what others did to us, we had dignity and honor. then we started fighting some dirty players and we adapted their methods, we lose a lot of respect when you look at our country from the outside...we've become a country run by petty rules like the ones children make...


alright i'll stop but ffs that shit was completely biased that it just disgusts me...

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like i said you didnt watch the videos so what you think. but your right the letter is bias becaus its coiming from the some1 who belives in god. if you dont belive in god then thats your right. whats funny they belive in the same god as the christans do. i wanted you to watch the videos because it shows the leaders of the islams saying what there saying. im not showing properganda. its stright from the there mouths to your ears. and if any1 in america born here or just an immagrent that dosent like america then they need to be taken back or droped off where they want to go. no room for u here if you dont like us. now im not saying dont like our gov. i mean america. reguardless of what goverment controls us we are all americans and thats gotta be what we belive in. cuz when the shit really hits the fan we can always revolt and reform so... all im saying is.... being and educated american is better then being what they think of us is as stupied, lazy, fat, sex crazed and hopeless heven. watch the vids
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