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Old 07-14-2008, 07:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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In today's news, Youtube was ordered to give user histories and IP's to Viacom for evidentiary collection (aka. discovery in legal terms). I've went through this same process with our lawsuit brought by the MPAA so I thought I'll share some of my thoughts on the issue.

As unreasonable as I think these lawsuits by Viacom/MPAA may be, in order for the legal process to work, plaintiffs are entitled to evidence in order to prove their case. However, user privacy should be a large concern in disclosing of data (logs) as evidence, and in neither Youtube's or our case, there's no reason for turning over data that would expose your personal identify (such as your IP address). From glancing the order against Youtube, the reason they were ordered to turn over user histories is to prove user infringements, and inclusion of IP's in such logs is to uniquely identify users who may have signed up multiple usernames/accounts. I call bullshit on that. If someone uses multiple usernames, he can as easily login with multiple IP addresses, disclosing IP's would not help the plaintiffs in proving copyright infringements. I expect Google/Youtube to appeal the order (at least I sure hope so).
Pulled that from isohunt.com. Time to ghost ips, screw with proxies just to annoy them. Sucks how everything is traceable.

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Old 07-14-2008, 08:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Piracy ftw!
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Piracy ftw!
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Its not against the law to use proxies.

And dont promote illegal crap (websites/software)... you could/willl be banned for it.


Addon for firefox to use a proxy server:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5833

I use it..works great...its slow so be warned.
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if its slow then how does it work great? I NEED KWIK SPED FOR MY PR0NTUBE DOWNLAODS!!
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if its slow then how does it work great? I NEED KWIK SPED FOR MY PR0NTUBE DOWNLAODS!!
SO you cant be tracked were you have been by anyone. You can dl links normally so dl speed wont be affected but the speed of loading a page will be.
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SO you cant be tracked were you have been by anyone. You can dl links normally so dl speed wont be affected but the speed of loading a page will be.
They can back track you to your ISP. You're not untraceable but it's a considerable amount harder to find you.
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They can back track you to your ISP. You're not untraceable but it's a considerable amount harder to find you.
Nothing is impossibly you are right but its so hard to do its unlikely anyone will be able to.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It is a bitch to trace but it's doable by big companies fairly quickly. That's all I'm saying, people shouldn't try to get ballsy. Viacom brings those lawsuits to a large amount of highly visited websites. ISO hunt was indited to show their IP user history. ISO hunt shit on Viacom, some places are stupid/don't care/not willing to go to court.It is good to have tho for the hackers out there trying to locate the easy static IPs to get into. Basically, surf smart
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