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07-24-2007, 08:40 AM
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Hard drive ?????
I had some small glitches like zboard died, started getting blue screen so I installed fresh windows. I heard a clicking sound and thought my HD was going bad so i started moving some files i didnt have backed up yet to the good drive and everytime I would move a few files I would get the blue screen. Then I started losing the HD at boot up so I just assumed the drive was getting worse but then I lost the second, new, drive. Is my drive bad or is it the Motherboard, ram, virus etc? everything is fairly new, 2 yrs except the drive which is a little older. I dont want to lose the data on my 2nd drive so i dont want to format that to install windows. I hate to buy another drive just to have the same problem.
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07-24-2007, 09:36 AM
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If the hard drive is making ANY noises (beyond the usual whirring sound) it is probably about to go bad. I have had two die, and I had advanced warning from the clicking sounds. Once you hear that, back up as soon as possible to another drive and get it replaced. The motherboard/RAM/etc. are not going to cause the clicking sound.
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07-24-2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ILuvSmurfs
If the hard drive is making ANY noises (beyond the usual whirring sound) it is probably about to go bad. I have had two die, and I had advanced warning from the clicking sounds. Once you hear that, back up as soon as possible to another drive and get it replaced. The motherboard/RAM/etc. are not going to cause the clicking sound.
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I concer. Ive had about 3 hard drives do that and its a sign of imminent death. When you get a bsod, what is the error? Is it something like cant find file so and so?
You got a new drive...and there other drive was gone...and that new drive died...i highly doubt it. There is a possibility that your mobo or psu is going or is bad...and that your old hd was getting worse because of either of those problems. Normally...after hearing the clicking sound of death, you get a few weeks...unless you have a seagate...then you have a few days. I would try (if you can) swaping parts to test to see if each one is the problem.
Steer far away from seagate..their hard drives suck ass...my computer tech teacher told me that they are really cheap and dont last long.
You know what...if you can...try booting up on a live cd such as knoppix (linux) and see if it errors or something..even tho it is linux...see if it can read that new hard drive. I actually have a windows live disk that has everything for repairing and fixing someones computer. Works great.
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07-24-2007, 01:41 PM
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i would check your psu, it sounds like your board is getting unstable high rails. How old is the psu?
might be worth it to invest in a new one
some other questions would be do you have anything that is sucking a ton of power from your computer? any devices that have external power that could be injecting power into the box (usb devices specifically are usually the culprit)
is your pc overclocked?
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07-24-2007, 02:09 PM
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No USB items or anything with external power. It still sees my DVD drives so I could try knoppix and check it, could i use the windows install disk and see if the drives are there or would knoppix be a better way to go? The PSU is also couple yrs old but it came with the puter so it could be suspect, I have another psu so i will try that too.
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07-24-2007, 06:57 PM
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what error messages are you getting with the bsod?
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07-25-2007, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by =nsn=Captpat
No USB items or anything with external power. It still sees my DVD drives so I could try knoppix and check it, could i use the windows install disk and see if the drives are there or would knoppix be a better way to go? The PSU is also couple yrs old but it came with the puter so it could be suspect, I have another psu so i will try that too.
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Please tell us what the bsod says...could be very useful. Well, personally would go with knoppix...would read the drive(s)...but if you happen to have the windows boot disk..try it.
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07-25-2007, 04:23 AM
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did you build this comp yourself and is this your setup?
hard drive 1 windows
hard drive 2 <- drive in question
hard drive 3 <- new drive
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hard drive 1 windows <- drive in question
hard drive 2 <-new drive
1. start by making sure ALL cables are plugged in all the way
2. have you tried doing a deep scan to see if maybe it's just a bad sector? <- i'd trash that HD anyway
3. more than one component having intermitant problems sounds like a psu, but they are the same component type so that raises other questions
4. if you reach the point of tear down, flex the mb upsidedown under a bright light to see if it's cracked. usually a cracked/bad mb causes restarts, though, in my experience. 
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07-25-2007, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricko0
what error messages are you getting with the bsod?
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It was just a general error code, nothing specific.
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07-25-2007, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by .chim.chim.
did you build this comp yourself and is this your setup?
hard drive 1 windows
hard drive 2 <- drive in question
hard drive 3 <- new drive
or
hard drive 1 windows <- drive in question
hard drive 2 <-new drive
1. start by making sure ALL cables are plugged in all the way
2. have you tried doing a deep scan to see if maybe it's just a bad sector? <- i'd trash that HD anyway
3. more than one component having intermitant problems sounds like a psu, but they are the same component type so that raises other questions
4. if you reach the point of tear down, flex the mb upsidedown under a bright light to see if it's cracked. usually a cracked/bad mb causes restarts, though, in my experience. 
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I have 2 drives.
drive 1, 2 partitions C drive w/windows 50Gigs and 2nd partition with saved game files etc 150Gigs, these are the files i was trying to move to the newer 300G drive.
2nd drive is fairly new 300G drive I use for my DVD collection backup.
My problems started with drive 1 so i reinstalled windows all went well I was even able to come in here and post a response. Then I started having the same general BSOD message when i would start transferring files, it would move 2/3 files and blue screen. I just wanted to move the items i didnt backup yet to the 300G drive so I could buy a new drive for windows. Anyway on bootup I started losing the C:\ hard drive and then started losing drive 2 (300Gigs) which is fairly new drive. so now i cant boot at all because bootup doesnt see either hard drive, only sees the 2 DVD players.
I dont mind buying a new drive but I dont really want to spend the money just to find it is something else, since now both drives are gone. unlikely both drives went bad days apart.
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