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02-05-2008, 08:49 PM
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How do you catch a...
How do you catch a hacker who uses wallhack and only uses recoil modifying hacks ?
I've noticed a few players in the server who are well know. Once in a while I will see them spaying and they will be spraying for a while. then they stop and they shoot a few more rounds but they are still aiming at the ground. But the bullets are flying only a few millimeters over the opponents head. You might be thinking "oh you have to pull down while spraying with the AK, this guy doesn't know what he is talking about!". Well this person was using a M4A1.
I've also noticed a few people who are pre-aligning crosshairs with the just so that soon as they turn a corner, their crosshair is ready or very close to the opponent's head. Now, another shady part about this is, after they claim their kill they usually gladly admit to using radars. But what if there were no teammates around ?
But my point is... with some retarded hackers using oblivious hacks which have their crosshairs jumping from head to head, its easy to catch them and record demos. How do you suppose you catch the hackers who make it look like skills ? Using subtle recoil adjustments or using wallhacks without completely aligning their crosshairs on their oppoents before they turn around corners ?
We all know you can have very lucky nights in CS:S (which we can blame hit boxes). But how far can you go with luck ?
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02-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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WC3 Admin
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Wisconsin
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make demos
in your console type record [name] then when you're done type stop.
PM an admin with your findings.
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02-05-2008, 11:08 PM
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"I've also noticed a few people who are pre-aligning crosshairs with the just so that soon as they turn a corner, their crosshair is ready or very close to the opponent's head. Now, another shady part about this is, after they claim their kill they usually gladly admit to using radars. But what if there were no teammates around ?"
Isnt that what your taught to do though? I know I started out aiming at my teamates heads and following them around way back in the day and since then you just know where someones heads gonnabe after awhile  , but I have also notice what you're talking about with a couple people, Im always too darn lazy or I am on a hot streak and dont wnt to take a demo. I think I will start demoing soon  Another thing I have noticed with a few people are rates are very messed up. Extreme I sometime can follow you fine but toher times you are very glitchy? I dont know if this is lag or what but there are times when its bad and times when its okay. Where as most players are fine. Just some other pints I thought I'd throw in 
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02-06-2008, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ExtremeAnger
Once in a while I will see them spaying and they will be spraying for a while. then they stop and they shoot a few more rounds but they are still aiming at the ground. But the bullets are flying only a few millimeters over the opponents head. <- that is normal
I've also noticed a few people who are pre-aligning crosshairs with the just so that soon as they turn a corner, their crosshair is ready or very close to the opponent's head. Now, another shady part about this is, after they claim their kill they usually gladly admit to using radars. But what if there were no teammates around?
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sounds maybe? or i would say gaming intelligence
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Originally Posted by The Franchise
Another thing I have noticed with a few people are rates are very messed up. Extreme I sometime can follow you fine but toher times you are very glitchy? I dont know if this is lag or what but there are times when its bad and times when its okay. Where as most players are fine. Just some other pints I thought I'd throw in 
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rates 25k ,cl_updaterate 66,cl_cmdrate 66 minimum right?
and TheFranchise start taking those demos, keep the server clean m8
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02-06-2008, 04:05 PM
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I suck at CS:S but I'll tell you right now I pull some bullshit like Brift does too. What does that mean? Well certainly if you have demos of suspicion we'll review 'em. We take a lot of time reviewing them usually. There's just some people that are really good at this game. If you ever watch Brift play you see it all the time on Vanilla CS:S servers. They call those people Cal players.
So the pre-aiming. I do that when I'm playing good. It's just anticipation a lot of the time. So... don't cry hacker, take demos 
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02-06-2008, 04:45 PM
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Exactly. Suspicious kills raise your attention to watch them, but that doesn't make them a full fledged hacker. Some players are good at hiding them. Others are just good in general.
Everyone has different playing styles that they use to their advanatage. I use undead to get to spots before others and to sneak around behind the enemy. What does this mean? It means I generally do better with Undead. I can play as any race and do well, but people think I make a lot of BS kills with Undead. I went 52-9 on Piranesi with dualies+undead. I was under another alias to see what players thought and you guessed it. I was called a hacker up and down. I even had Ketchup come in and he thought a hacker was on (he sent me a steam message).
You'll often see players look through walls as they turn corners. This doesn't necessarily mean they are walling. It's not logical to look all the way out around the corner. You anticipate looking on the other side of the corner so you turn toward the wall. Try to keep in mind how you play as well.
Radar is a bit ridiculous. You can use it for sooo many things. Players show up on your radar and you have a good general idea of where they are for a couple seconds. In WC3 where humans can tele across a map instantly, seconds mean everything. I utilize radar by seeing where players died. Other times I'll just scout cooridors and hallways to see if enemies are there then I'll report where they are. Other players follow my lead and know exactly where the enemy is (if they haven't moved). When spec'ing, remember that you can't hear communication through the mic. It's just as important as anything mentioned above.
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02-06-2008, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Negative:
I use undead to get to spots before others and to sneak around behind the enemy.
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notest that  damn undead rusher
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Remedyz: If you ever watch Brift play you see it all the time on Vanilla CS:S servers. They call those people Cal players.
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could you pls pm me that servers ip?
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02-06-2008, 05:40 PM
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I'm pretty confident that all I have to do is learn how to aim, and I could be an ace at this game. I don't think walls would even help me at all, because most of the time I always hear people around me and stare at my radar just as much as i watch the main screen. Most of the time I know where people are around me, I just can't kill them when they finally reveal themselves. Plenty of times I've even used radar to shoot through a wall and kill someone.
I think it's very hard to find hackers simply because of radar. When you're spec, you can see everyone on it, so you don't actually know what's showing up for the player you're specing. If you really focus in on your radar for a round and know how to use it, you'll see how powerful it is. Especially since they put the map on it, instead of the old circle that just showed how far away they were. One sign of using radar is if they turn to the side randomly, may be towards a wall or not. Server messages cover the top of my radar, so a lot of the time I will look to the side so that what used to be the top is really the left so I can actually see what's going on.
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02-06-2008, 05:50 PM
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I've tried fixing this already, but the other location is like right in the center of the screen. Which is more distracting? 
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02-06-2008, 06:44 PM
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I like mitch SUCK at aiming period.... But wat i do is i "preaim" i basically got it down to a science  but wat i do is i keep my xhairs up to head level and just keep it there and i'll look at the walls before i turn soo when i do turn the corner instead of moving my xhairs over they're already there and just blast away... And if that don't work i keep my xhairs on the same level (which is head level) and go back and forth cuz usually the hitbox is delayed or fast.... So basically its either ahead of the body u see or behind and this helps me get ridic hs that make people going OHH U LUCKY SOB... but honestly i got it all planed out mofos  And if i'm caught off guard i just hit the F button like tomorrow people say its cheap... but honestly i'm know how to play my race if u don;t like too bad alot of people got this down like neg (they buy a ulti stopper) soo to make up for this i slow down cuz i know they waiting for me to run in like an "idiot" the other day on piransi or w/e neg thought i was going to come straight at him hard, but i slowed down and went right (left in his eyes) and got my hs.... But somepeople are ridic at aiming IE brift and ketchup if i didn't know them hell i'd call hax all day myself... But u just got to recognize the really good players from the really good hackers there are settle difference and it is very hard to tell the difference you can spend hours looking at someone and you might only catch like 5 things that look def hackerish... the question is Is it worth it?... it is soo just spec ur ass off that how i caught 2 guys a month ago  ok i'm stop rambling on but only cuz i got a 3 hour class 
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