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ExtremeAnger · 03-07-2008, 01:47 AM

okay at first i thought this guy was skills. but as i watched him through two map cycles he started to look very shady.

1. look at him navigate through the maps. he looks like a noob.

2. look at his mouse sensitivity when he looks around. it looks like his mouse sensitivity is way too high. he looks around jerking around. for example when he tries to throw grenades or teleport through a window, his mouse sensitivity is so high that he jerks and overshoots the entrance.

3. on de_cbble he see's people i can barely see. on one instnace he se's someone stnading by the side hall way boxes while he is standing in the lower part of the T spawn sniper window. He somehow manages see the guy behind a tree.

conclusion.

he is def using a wall hack of somesort. or at leats he is able to see people through walls or in this case through a tree.

he is using a aimbot toggling indeed. he makes some amazing shots. with his mouse sensitivity being so high and the fact he can't even aim correctly to teleport through a window, he still manages to quickly jerk the mouse to get head shots.

alot of demos in this one. it will only take you about 15 mins to watch all of them.

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Brift · 03-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Sorry, not convinced. I've watched him in the past and seen some of what you have but he has more rounds where he cannot aim then ones with lucky headshots.

SGTalon · 03-10-2008, 10:22 AM

My lucky headshots are totally skill.

ExtremeAnger · 03-10-2008, 01:06 PM

yeah but still doesn't explain how he saw that guy through a tree in cbble. that is what boggles my mind the most. it wasn't close enough to be able to see the guy's gun. the guy def wasn't in action against his teammate to see him on radar. but he goes to the window, doesn't even look around and shoots at him through a tree ?

okay i agree after i made a demo of him, i've seen him around the server and he's han't been scoring 42-12 like he did when i was recording him. but during the times i did demo him he was getting ridiculous amount of HS and suspiciously knew where people were.

but you guys are the admin and if there is not enough against him... there isn't enough.

Negative · 03-10-2008, 01:49 PM

I've played under aliases and done well. Guess what happened? I got accused like all hell that I was hacking. Just because someone's score is good here and there, doesn't mean much. Just wanted to throw that out there.

Sitting in a tree is an old spot where people sit. I've seen it before and still check that spot. There are a few players that regularly use it so I'm not all that surprised people find players there. The same applies to the trees in Piranesi.

Pointzero · 03-10-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Negative

I've played under aliases and done well. Guess what happened? I got accused like all hell that I was hacking. Just because someone's score is good here and there, doesn't mean much. Just wanted to throw that out there.

Sitting in a tree is an old spot where people sit. I've seen it before and still check that spot. There are a few players that regularly use it so I'm not all that surprised people find players there. The same applies to the trees in Piranesi.

yeah there are alot of spots people get used to and just blind shot a couple of times. I mean i've caught myself numerous times shotting into spots where i couldn't see people but yet someone was there and i killed them. Another thing when play alot of cs:s ( i don't know about other people) but i sometimes get really focus and my reactions are ridic and i get wild headshots so it could just be that even though he might suck say first time he comes in maybe 20-40 minutes later he gets really good. I mean thats how i am i need a good map or 2 before i start seeing 1.5+ kd but thats just me. And sometimes skills/luck comes in waves one may pwn for 3-4 rounds then suck for 3-4 rounds.

SGTalon · 03-10-2008, 03:07 PM

You only suck 3-4 rounds Tactics??? You sure about that number or are you "embellishing"

Extreme, it is really very simple. We can't ban everyone that does well. If we banned everyone that had "unnaturally" good skill nsn would no longer exist. It would just be me and Tactics left and no one would want to hang out with us anymore.

We have banned regulars in the past though. Some people are really good at hiding hacks. But they always mess up. When they do, we are there.

Pointzero · 03-10-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointzero

And sometimes skills/luck comes in waves one may pwn for 3-4 rounds then suck for 3-4 rounds.

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Originally Posted by SGTalon

You only suck 3-4 rounds Tactics??? You sure about that number or are you "embellishing"

Looks like the key words i said were "ONE MAY" not I and plz do we need to compare kdr? I think ur like wat .87 while i'm like 1.28 but hey i'm just saying

ExtremeAnger · 03-10-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Negative

Sitting in a tree is an old spot where people sit. I've seen it before and still check that spot. There are a few players that regularly use it so I'm not all that surprised people find players there. The same applies to the trees in Piranesi.

nah neg... his opponent was BEHIND A TREE. but yeah anyways. its all good... i've gotten some lucky streaks too. i guess he was having a hot night.

doesn't mean im gonna stop recording demos of people i find suspicious

possum · 03-10-2008, 08:57 PM

good dont, we need this kind of input